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  1. Adventures in Death... Kingdom Death!

    That you think anybody criticizing your hobby is attributing those characteristics to you directly based on biased media coverage to that effect. I.E. an insecurity ... not that you are a rapist. You projected that insecurity upon my statement implying that I was saying the owner of the model is a rapist.
  2. Adventures in Death... Kingdom Death!

    I never implied that the person owning it is a rapist. I think you might be projecting your own insecurities there. I implied that somebody seeing a piece like that on a shelf would be very uncomfortable with their surroundings. I don't have a problem with pin ups or the like. Art is art but some of it is in very bad taste. I happen to find this art in a very bad taste especially within the context of a hobby already struggling with rampant misogyny.
  3. Adventures in Death... Kingdom Death!

    I just can't imagine why anybody would ever want that thing on their shelf. Mom comes over for dinner and asks "How's the hobby going? Any thing new ... OMG WTF is that." What self respecting game store owner would ever allow that thing to played in their shop? Good luck to who ever plans on owning it on ever getting laid again. Imagine as a woman walking into somebody's apartment and seeing that thing nicely painted on the shelf. I mean if you turn it around its tail is literally about rape a chick. I fully appreciate weirdness in a world but full blown misogyny for misogyny's sake is a bridge too far for me.
  4. Adventures in Death... Kingdom Death!

    Love the paint job and figured I would check out the game to see what's up ... this was a mistake. You weren't kidding when you said shit was going to get weird Behold the wet nurse ... fuck me. Can't even post the view from the other side of that thing as I'm sure I'd be violating the terms of service here. Its like the models for this game were conceived of by a prepubescent D&D nerd. Major case of actual battle bikinis going on here too. Just ... ugh.
  5. War machine weekend ? What happened?

    Warmachine Weekend is a fan run event not on official PP hosted convention. As such they don't do a key note reveal there. The event you're thinking of is Lock and Load. There were however some spoilers and pre releases - The revelator made its debut for Protectorate - the 12 factions of christmas models were all present - lots of troll models from the up comming release cycle were there. - Iona the Unseen is a new circle female tharn warlock and her art was revealed
  6. OTC Practice Day November 25, 2017

    I'd actually be cool with the side room. Pressure off and enjoy some games while still having access to watch the main event if desired.
  7. OTC Practice Day November 25, 2017

    Not if they split it into two and the winners of each side play each other for the title. Not a bad compromise really. They'll need a massive event space to handle that many teams though. If you want to talk bad team names though there is one called "Let it happen". Self deprecating humour implying we never get sex (blue balls) is hella different from an actual rape joke ... disgusting.
  8. OTC Practice Day November 25, 2017

    in other news the dussiaume christmas party is Dec 2nd so we should be a go for the 25th.
  9. Warmachine - King Beyond the Wall

    No problem T. So we had a great day on Saturday with a big thanks going to Dave and Quinn for making the drive from Northbay. Excellent games were had all around and we got to crown a new king beyond the wall! Congrats to Josh Lavigne for taking the day and the title! Second and third went to Tyrone Lockhart and David Pliquin respectively. Enjoy your sweet trophies gentlemen and the title will be up for grabs again in 365 days.
  10. What: 75pts - Warmachine/Hordes Tournament When: October 14th with a 10am start time Where: Games Nook, Sudbury Ontario How Much: 15$ entry fee Its time again for some fast paced Iron Kingdom tournament action. Last year North Bay Dave held the first King Beyond the Wall tournament event in North Bay and a Sudbury native Tyrone Lockhart took home the crown. So this year the event is moving to Sudbury where players will battle it out for the title of Kind Beyond the Wall and the civic pride of their local meta for the coming year. This is our premier event of the tournament season in the North so we'll be looking to up the prize support a bit and are asking a 15$ entry fee to help support that effort. I'll be announcing what the prizes will be once I have a better idea of expected attendance numbers. One thing is for certain, Doug has a set of the old Steamroller trophies on hand so as long as we have 8 players or more we'll be handing those out to first second and third places. If we have an even number then the TO (David D.) will be participating to avoid handing out a buy round. If you're intending to participate then leave a comment below with the faction you'll be representing and lets get this party going! Tyrone Lockhart - Legion (Defending King!) Josh Lavigne - Skorne David Poliquin - Grymkin Quinn Perry - Cygnar Rob Emerson - Cryx Mat Dussiaume - Retribution David Dussiaume - Protectorate (T.O.)
  11. Chess/Death Clocks

    So a couple comments on the clocks. I partially financed the WM ones by reserving 10 to 20$ from each tournament and putting it towards the price of the clocks. I paid off half of them that way and just paid the other half myself. Presently we have 3 clocks for our tournaments with Dave from NorthBay usually supplying more when needed and together we do fine for our WM events. We have two digital versions that Mat posted and one analog one like this: https://thechessstore.com/diamond-quartz-chess-clock-black/ Digital clocks don't have to be expensive though: https://www.chesshouse.com/collections/dgt-chess-clocks/products/dgt-1001-chess-clock I haven't received complaints about either type but the digital is definitely better as the audible beeps as it counts down at the end are very useful. If you want Jer, you're welcome to use the digital clocks as we store them at the Nook in the WM terrain box (or maybe only one of them can't remember) just put them back when you're done. If you need the analogue one then just let me know ahead of time and I'd be happy to drop it off at the store for you. For all of you 40k players just make it a condition that everybody understands that for the next 3 tournaments you're upping the entry fee by an extra $5 to finance clock purchases. Make everybody aware of how many clocks the "community" has and make them available for anybody's event and there shouldn't be a problem. Clocks are 100% an event saver and i can't recommend them enough. also ... batman is still happening?
  12. Themes.

    Yes the cryx win rate was really high but circle had the worst performance against them by a good 5%. That's a problem. The solo options are a problem given that circle doesn't have a solo that can be free above 4pts (except in devourer's) and a good chunk of them are 3pts and even 2pts. The other problem is that circle relies on a their battle group more than most so infantry centric themes suffer mightily when trying to generate the points. Totem hunters would be nice but circle needs solos that actually provide good support like the legion sorceress not combat. The real solution is to allow things like the wolf rider and Morraig for free and to bundle some of the 2pt options together like wracks in creators might. 3x war wolves as a single free option or 2x gallows groves or if the shifting stones are allow for free bundle in the UA so its 5pts total instead of 3. Little things will go a long way.
  13. Themes.

    Well lets get one thing out of the way first. Circle has three interesting themes that provide good functionality. They are Devourer's Host, Bones of Orboros and Call of the Wild. Each one of those has pretty vanilla benefits and subpar free points generation compared to other facitons, although some of the nerfs handed out this round brought the points thing more in line with expectations. Devourer's host plays with units that function well and are quite survivable. The granting of free heart tokens to start the game is awesome. The bad here is that the lord of the feast andthe wolfrider solo can't be taken for free because "reasons" and neither the LotF, nor the death wolves count towards free points because, again, "reasons". Bones of Orobors succeeds when the buffs to the stoneshaper goes through. Until that happens it hits like a wet noodle unless you play the guargantuan. The benefits though are pretty meh. topping out at 12pts of free models and getting the +1 healing on beasts during maintenance just means that wolds play like regular beasts do all the time ... yay? Compare that to things like getting carapace or gang/flank on your heavies and yeah ... boring. +2" of deployment is the generic benefit that every theme gets but is very welcome. Call of the wild could be good but again maxes out at 12 free points and suffers from the fact that circles living beast stable need a CID cycle. Stalkers and scarsfells will be baller here though. Now the stinkers, wild hunt and secret masters which were both known to be trash and PP ignored them this round while buffing others like sons of the tempest. I think they're probably waiting for a CID cycle to get these two right but that'll be a long wait. Secret masters gives out free up keeps turn one but then excludes two of the main warlocks that would want that in Kromac 1 and 2 because they're not blackclads. Also excludes Wurmwood who is one of the warlocks that might actually like this theme. The theme also locks you into the most subpar units in circle and then also demands that you bring a minion unit to get the other benefit (blackclads sack pawn to minions) locking you out of the last free point tier. So reasonably speaking it has a max free point total of 8pts and gets there by spamming terrible units that need a CID cycle. Wild hunt has good units but not hard hitting units. You need a decent battle group to pick up the slack but if you build a decent battle group then you can't generate more than 2 instances of free models which will total a max of 8pts. In regards to free points Morriag can't be taken for free when he would easily swing the point parity on this list up to par and war wolves don't count as wolf sworn so they don't add to the free point generation and list construction is too finicky to be good. Tack on to that issue that one of the benefits is tracker on warbeasts which isn't even a bonus to wolfsworn models. Further compounding that is the fact that the living beasts you want to take with this theme don't have pathfinder so you can't even use tracker effectively and you have a dead on arrival benefit. (yes ambushing wolves are awesome and this is the main draw here). This list is alos missing a good character beast to anchor which Loki would be perfect for but they refuse to add him to it for some reason. Just lots of meh going on here and PP chose to ignore it all. The main take away from looking at circle benefits is that no benefit is actually better is a lot of cases than these benefits because 8 pts is very few extra points and being able to take sentry stones in any list combined with mixing the different elements often prodcues better results for circle than the themes. Allowing minions in every theme will help things like bones do even better but then bones wasn't the problem. PP mostly did a good job with themepocolypse but Circle is getting left further and further behind the curve. If you need evidence the look at their 27% win rate vs cryx at the WTC and one of the poorest win % showings over all. I think you'll see circle be the new whipping boy this cycle until their dedicated CID brings them back in line.
  14. Themes.

    Took some time to read through the changes and I'll do a small write up on each of my factions soon. Very quick impression: 1. Protectorate won big. Really good changes to every theme. 2. Trolls got some much needed love with the band of heroes changes 3. Circle was told to go make sweet love to themselves as their underperforming themes didn't get a single change and had two lackluster themes added. 4. Cygnar got a side grade as their best theme, Heavy Metal, was nerfed but Sons of the Tempest got the most improved prize on the day 5. Over all Warmachine got richer and Hordes got poorer thanks to the addition of mercs and minions. There is a very uneven distribution of FF effects between Mercs and Minions and this gives WM way more and way better options than what it gives to Hordes. Ruhpert with the exemplar theme force, Reinholdt with Nemo3 and Sloan and Madilyn with Rez2 ... yes please. Witch doc croc, Targ and the new gatormen attachment say hi and ask us to call once and awhile.
  15. Themes.

    Define stable? What game doesn't have new releases and tweaks? This has been a pretty tumultuous year for them but its also the first year of an edition change. Everything I hear about the MK1 to MK2 transition it was much of the same deal.
  16. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    Why have the discussion unless you're lobbying for your opinion? That's kind of weird. Also your post seems really aggressive. This was a cool discussion no need to make it hostile. If you took my posts as hostile then sorry but that was not my intent. I'm just really passionate about this subject. One question though. What would you suggest that a competitively minded infinity player do in Sudbury? Seems that there aren't any events that would scratch his itch and if he played the way he wants to he would be dinged for it at your events. This isn't a 40k, WMH, Infinity or even x-wing issue. Its an issue that's been around as long as there has been sport. Minimizing it as belonging to just one or two systems is big red herring.
  17. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    Really this has strayed a long way from the original topic. The crux of this and other forms of competitive rules tweaking is that some players have a preferred idea of the way the game should be played. They lobby hard to have that way imposed upon the community or they run their own tournaments in that manner and either do or do not consider feedback. As such the community either grows and accepts that method and it becomes the default for the meta or they rebel and demand something different hosting their own rule set or moving on to other games. Lucky for me I play a game where the company that produces the game has released a robust tournament rule set for the community to follow and standardize upon. I like that as it removes this kind of discussion from the equation and we can land on the international standard for how the tournaments should be run. Also lucky for me is that their tournament standard works quite well so I'm happy to apply it. What you've been arguing for here Taylor, is tweaking the competitive environment to suit the aspects of the hobby you personally enjoy. I think there are better ways to do that by dedicating the proper play spaces to those aspects and emphasizing those aspect during those times. Painting is the one aspect that gets the least attention in the community and that should probably change. To me it looks like the following: Tournaments - for the competition aspect and nobody should be shamed for trying to win as long as its done in a friendly manner. Only the game rules matter and victory should be judged purely on game performance. Painting competitions - are unfortunately few and far between. This should be remedied with more stuff on the forums for people to jump in and have models judged by the community for prizes or tacked on to competitive events as a side competition. Sportsmanship is for all the time. This will determine who wants to play you on game nights and how welcome you are at other events within the community. Don't be a dick! Edit: realized that forum formatting may make it look like i'm calling you a dick, Taylor, but that's totally intended as a general statement on sportsmanship.
  18. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    You would be mistaken sir. ... lol? Josh can run a horde of 60 drudges while my Cygnar Colossal list moves 5 models. Again, as long as the rules are defined before hand then the player know what they're getting into and can ensure their own capability to play within the rules. Design your list to accommodate your own clock management capabilities and things work out fine. Clock limits are generally pretty generous to so only the slowest players run into problems. Admittedly I can't say if clocks are really a solution for other game system with mechanics that occur on your opponent's turn but its still the preferred solution.
  19. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    Ambiguous sportsmanship applications like "timing out" are solved with good game rule sets like death clock or timed turns. Exactly how slow does another player have to play to earn this black mark from you? Has that been clearly communicated before the event? Do you give them any indication of when you think they're slow playing you? What if they're new to the game and were hoping to get exposure to the tournament environment. You doing to ding the newbie on his score because you're just frustrated with him? These are all really negative consequences of an ambiguously defined "sportsmanship score". I'm also sure we all don't want to be handed a rubric on how to evaluate our opponents so that the score is consistently applied.
  20. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    You guys need game clocks.
  21. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    Sportsmanship is not something you put "effort" into it should just be a given for any competitive environment and those who display poor sportsmanship on a regular basis (we all have off days) should not be welcomed back. The problem with linking a subjective sportsmanship score to final results is that everybody has a different definition of it and it also turns into a popularity contest. For example I've read even here on these boards, that people at 40k tournaments will be marked down on sportsmanship for taking what other players deem a cheesy list. I'm sorry but that's a complete load of bull shit. If somebody has decided to play the game in a friendly and cordial manner using models that have been selected according to the rules of the game and event and do well they should not be penalized because another player decided to bring their favorite model X that happens to be equipped with butter knives. Beating your opponent in the most efficient manner possible is the core objective of a TOURNAMENT. Save the not tabling them and bringing sub optimal lists for the casual stuff on game night where it belongs. We should not be shaming people who want to bring their A game once and awhile. Not all lists are created equally and not all players are created equally. Its up to the person to decide what they want out of the tournament then build and play with that goal in mind. You can't control how other people are going to try and have fun and its not up to you or others to give them a grade on that. The sportsmanship score is infantalizing and paternalistic and should never be applied to final scores. Otherwise every competitively minded player should be marking down every painter/fluff player that brings sub-optimal lists to tournaments and that's a horrible solution. Somebody who wants to rub their opponent's face in the fact that they lost, and gloat about the victory ad nauseum is a whole other ball of wax. Those people are cancer and need to told to cut it out. If after repeated warnings the behavior persists then stop allowing them entry to events. That's what good TO's and judges are for.
  22. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    "Back in the day (sorry for sounding old), a tournament wasn't just a out winning games. " This is the part that the hobbiests often get wrong about the game first people. Its not about winning games. Its about testing yourself against other like minded people and getting the most tactically rewarding and interesting experience out of the endeavor. For some, yes, it is just about winning but those people are usually the dicks. I like to tweak my lists practice my techniques and hone my skills and feel I get the best game when I've played against an opponent of a similar mind set. Tournaments bring these people out and pit them against each other. Painting is all well and good but if that's what you want to do and emphasize then hold dedicated painting competitions. Don't tax the people who just want to play the game to support the people who want to engage in painting and vice versa. Bill these events side by side to bring everybody out for the day and get the social aspect going. If you don't see people registering to be in the painting competitions then I think that should be your answer. As an example, when I go to a squash tournament I'm not expecting to be judged on how well I dressed in regards to how the main prize is handed out.
  23. Three Colour Minimum - discussion

    best response was the first one in that articles own comment section so I'll just quote him to save myself the time "Yes, you’re a snob lol. In all seriousness, painted armies are preferrable, but an expectation that armies should be painted goes much too far IMO. How would you feel if I said you were disrespecting the tournament if you hadn’t poured hours into testing and refining your list? That turning up with a nicely painted army you hadn’t practised with was disrespecting your opponent? That you should just stay home painting your miniatures if you weren’t prepared to put the hard hours into playing the game at a tournament level? Not that I’m suggesting you specifically don’t do that, but for plenty of people a tournament is an excuse to get some games in and show off their nicely painted army, and that’s fine. It’s equally fine for someone who likes to play but not paint and who invests their time into doing that to turn up and play. We each make our hobby our own. I believe in rewarding all facets of the hobby, so whenever I run a tournament I always reward based on placings, but I give out prizes for painting too. I don’t cross those streams as give tournament points for painting, but recognize them for what they are, which is two separate and co-existing aspects of the hobby, which different people enjoy to different degrees." That's all there is to say.
  24. Warmachine - King Beyond the Wall

    Except that his attendance is a heavy maybe if the stars align. I'm personally very excited to have him. It would be nice to see how we measure up against the competition down south. We actually do have players that I think have a decent 30 to 40ish percent chance against him. That includes you T Besides ... he plays Khador and they suck now. Just play cryx and auto win
  25. Best thing I've seen all day

    You're welcome Also this
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